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		<title>By: The Operator</title>
		<link>http://blog.operator-speaking.com/2008/08/09/on-dealing-with-manipulative-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1635</link>
		<dc:creator>The Operator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tips:&lt;/strong&gt;

1. Make better life decisions in the future - for starters, seek professional advice instead of mine.

2. Check your spelling.</description>
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<p>1. Make better life decisions in the future &#8211; for starters, seek professional advice instead of mine.</p>
<p>2. Check your spelling.</p>
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		<title>By: cynthia</title>
		<link>http://blog.operator-speaking.com/2008/08/09/on-dealing-with-manipulative-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1633</link>
		<dc:creator>cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey i am a first timer ive been with my boyfriend for about 3 years i have 4 children and only two are his ok we use to have a great relatonship but then here lately he has got very mean and maniplulative he calls me names and say really mean stuff to me i really dont no how to deal with him at all sometimes  i no im not purfect no one is but he blames me for all his anger and i could use some tips on how to deal with things thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey i am a first timer ive been with my boyfriend for about 3 years i have 4 children and only two are his ok we use to have a great relatonship but then here lately he has got very mean and maniplulative he calls me names and say really mean stuff to me i really dont no how to deal with him at all sometimes  i no im not purfect no one is but he blames me for all his anger and i could use some tips on how to deal with things thank you</p>
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		<title>By: The Operator</title>
		<link>http://blog.operator-speaking.com/2008/08/09/on-dealing-with-manipulative-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1485</link>
		<dc:creator>The Operator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p style=&quot;font-family:sans-serif;&quot;&gt;Did you ever think that maybe the reasons people are miserable might be a little more complex than that just that they want to be miserable in order to ruin your day?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyone can come up with a reason to be miserable but there is never a valid reason to use one&#039;s misery as a bargaining chip in a bid for sexual conquest. Did you actually read the entirety of the post?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style=&quot;font-family:sans-serif;&quot;&gt;What if there was someone who was suicidal in your own family?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Advice to my suicidal friends and family members has always been: &quot;Don&#039;t fuck it up and cripple yourself.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If someone truly wishes to die, that is his or her business - I would not prioritize my attachment to another person over his or her own wishes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, perhaps you did not read the entirety of the post. It&#039;s no secret that I have problems of my own and have taken ambulance rides (and rides in police cars) to the hospital as a result of various breakdowns and self-inflicted violence.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I have learned anything from the years I&#039;ve suffered from clinical depression, it is this: &lt;strong&gt;hold no sympathy for the devil.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Please feel free to comment further upon familiarizing yourself with the material you are presently failing to interpret.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-family:sans-serif;">Did you ever think that maybe the reasons people are miserable might be a little more complex than that just that they want to be miserable in order to ruin your day?</p>
<p>Anyone can come up with a reason to be miserable but there is never a valid reason to use one&#8217;s misery as a bargaining chip in a bid for sexual conquest. Did you actually read the entirety of the post?</p>
<p style="font-family:sans-serif;">What if there was someone who was suicidal in your own family?</p>
<p>Advice to my suicidal friends and family members has always been: &#8220;Don&#8217;t fuck it up and cripple yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>If someone truly wishes to die, that is his or her business &#8211; I would not prioritize my attachment to another person over his or her own wishes.</p>
<p>Again, perhaps you did not read the entirety of the post. It&#8217;s no secret that I have problems of my own and have taken ambulance rides (and rides in police cars) to the hospital as a result of various breakdowns and self-inflicted violence.</p>
<p>If I have learned anything from the years I&#8217;ve suffered from clinical depression, it is this: <strong>hold no sympathy for the devil.</strong></p>
<p>Please feel free to comment further upon familiarizing yourself with the material you are presently failing to interpret.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
		<link>http://blog.operator-speaking.com/2008/08/09/on-dealing-with-manipulative-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you ever think that maybe the reasons people are miserable might be a little more complex than that just that they want to be miserable in order to ruin your day?  It is an important skill to be able to know when someone is manipulating you, but to have such a brazen attitude towards the lives of other people show that you have some problems of your own.  What if there was someone who was suicidal in your own family?  It happens way more than you think and no family is immune.  Would you, or would you want others to take the same position you have taken in the above statement?  I doubt it.  In a way it is good that you have so little understanding of depression because it means you haven&#039;t experienced it yourself, but that is not a reason to remain ignorant and push your own self-congratulations (that you have never experienced it) onto others at their expense.  Don&#039;t leave your soul at home when you walk out the door in the morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever think that maybe the reasons people are miserable might be a little more complex than that just that they want to be miserable in order to ruin your day?  It is an important skill to be able to know when someone is manipulating you, but to have such a brazen attitude towards the lives of other people show that you have some problems of your own.  What if there was someone who was suicidal in your own family?  It happens way more than you think and no family is immune.  Would you, or would you want others to take the same position you have taken in the above statement?  I doubt it.  In a way it is good that you have so little understanding of depression because it means you haven&#8217;t experienced it yourself, but that is not a reason to remain ignorant and push your own self-congratulations (that you have never experienced it) onto others at their expense.  Don&#8217;t leave your soul at home when you walk out the door in the morning.</p>
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		<title>By: The Operator</title>
		<link>http://blog.operator-speaking.com/2008/08/09/on-dealing-with-manipulative-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1481</link>
		<dc:creator>The Operator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is some sick conspiracy to keep miserable people alive, I want no part in it - one&#039;s life is ultimately one&#039;s property and how others choose to handle their property is hardly any concern of mine.

Remember: No good deed goes unpunished and unhappy people are their own reward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is some sick conspiracy to keep miserable people alive, I want no part in it &#8211; one&#8217;s life is ultimately one&#8217;s property and how others choose to handle their property is hardly any concern of mine.</p>
<p>Remember: No good deed goes unpunished and unhappy people are their own reward.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall, this is a great article, because it helps open eyes to the fact that some people are manipulative and need to be handled with caution.  It gives some great signs to look for.  

However, I do have to take issue with the statement &quot;but we all know that one who truly intends to die does not call others to say “I’m going to kill myself now” before unleashing razors and pills.&quot;  In a lot of cases this may be true. But there are a lot of tragic examples of people taking their own lives who DID cry out for help and were dismissed as being &quot;manipulative.&quot;  Maybe they were to some extent.  But suicidal ideation should always be taken seriously.  This doesn&#039;t mean that you need to get over-involved personally.  This is what I would say to this person.

&quot;I care about you and want to help you.  What is your address?&quot;(Don&#039;t mention the ambulance yet.  If they think you are going to come personally, then so be it.  What they think doesn&#039;t matter at this point. And yes, I do think we should care about everyone on a basic human level.)

Hopefully at this point they will give an address.  Then I would say &quot;Okay, ____________, here is what I am going to do.  I can see that you are feeling really bad right now.  I am afraid of what might happen if you don&#039;t get the help you need.  I&#039;m going to call an ambulance right now and send them to your address.  I&#039;ll stay on the phone until they arrive.&quot;

(Call paramedics)

At this point they can continue trying to manipulate you or whatever they are going to do, but you are going to try not to rise to any bait.  You can just keep saying things like &quot;I know you are upset and that&#039;s why I&#039;m getting help for you now,&quot; and &quot;I just want to make sure you are safe.&quot;

Once the paramedics arrive, your involvement ends.  If anyone tries to contact you about the situation, tell the basics of what you know (w/o the emotional theatrics) and then tell them that you do not wish any further involvement, even if the patient should request it.  You are within your rights to do that, and the person will still get help from competent mental health professionals. THEN.....

You can change your phone number!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, this is a great article, because it helps open eyes to the fact that some people are manipulative and need to be handled with caution.  It gives some great signs to look for.  </p>
<p>However, I do have to take issue with the statement &#8220;but we all know that one who truly intends to die does not call others to say “I’m going to kill myself now” before unleashing razors and pills.&#8221;  In a lot of cases this may be true. But there are a lot of tragic examples of people taking their own lives who DID cry out for help and were dismissed as being &#8220;manipulative.&#8221;  Maybe they were to some extent.  But suicidal ideation should always be taken seriously.  This doesn&#8217;t mean that you need to get over-involved personally.  This is what I would say to this person.</p>
<p>&#8220;I care about you and want to help you.  What is your address?&#8221;(Don&#8217;t mention the ambulance yet.  If they think you are going to come personally, then so be it.  What they think doesn&#8217;t matter at this point. And yes, I do think we should care about everyone on a basic human level.)</p>
<p>Hopefully at this point they will give an address.  Then I would say &#8220;Okay, ____________, here is what I am going to do.  I can see that you are feeling really bad right now.  I am afraid of what might happen if you don&#8217;t get the help you need.  I&#8217;m going to call an ambulance right now and send them to your address.  I&#8217;ll stay on the phone until they arrive.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Call paramedics)</p>
<p>At this point they can continue trying to manipulate you or whatever they are going to do, but you are going to try not to rise to any bait.  You can just keep saying things like &#8220;I know you are upset and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m getting help for you now,&#8221; and &#8220;I just want to make sure you are safe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once the paramedics arrive, your involvement ends.  If anyone tries to contact you about the situation, tell the basics of what you know (w/o the emotional theatrics) and then tell them that you do not wish any further involvement, even if the patient should request it.  You are within your rights to do that, and the person will still get help from competent mental health professionals. THEN&#8230;..</p>
<p>You can change your phone number!</p>
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		<title>By: Stryker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stryker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just randomely stumbled across this fantastic journal entry of yours. GOOD on you man! You dealt with that amazingly.
As a girl I can recognize these manipulation tactics from miles away, yet you men are SO easily fooled by them.
I&#039;ve watched friends, and even my own boyfriend fall victim to whimsical bitches looking for a little excitement.
I think it&#039;s horrible and wrong, and any girl who attempts these sorts of emotional war fare are most certainly &quot;gangrenous limb that must be amputated from society before they infect others.&quot;
well said, well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just randomely stumbled across this fantastic journal entry of yours. GOOD on you man! You dealt with that amazingly.<br />
As a girl I can recognize these manipulation tactics from miles away, yet you men are SO easily fooled by them.<br />
I&#8217;ve watched friends, and even my own boyfriend fall victim to whimsical bitches looking for a little excitement.<br />
I think it&#8217;s horrible and wrong, and any girl who attempts these sorts of emotional war fare are most certainly &#8220;gangrenous limb that must be amputated from society before they infect others.&#8221;<br />
well said, well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me smile to know she&#039;s miserable and that there&#039;s someone she &quot;reached out to&quot; that won&#039;t play her game. MWHAHAHAH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me smile to know she&#8217;s miserable and that there&#8217;s someone she &#8220;reached out to&#8221; that won&#8217;t play her game. MWHAHAHAH</p>
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